The Shakedown with Shooter and Mac G
Newly acquainted bros with nothing better to do after work so we decide to try this podcast stuff. We'll be having daily discussions about various topics from current events to whatever is on our minds. Let's get real and hopefully have a few laughs along the way.
The Shakedown with Shooter and Mac G
From Pizza Challenges To Sample Packs: Turning Hobbies Into Hustles
What if the fastest way to level up your creative work isn’t more gear, but better systems? We open by tightening our format, building a clean video workflow, and backing up audio like pros. Then we take a sharp turn into the kind of stories that make a show sticky: food challenges, a chaotic pizza pickup that turns into social gold, and small street clips that stitch a night into a tight, shareable montage. It’s not about going viral; it’s about being present, shipping often, and building trust one real moment at a time.
We also walk through a deliberate pivot in music: moving from personal tracks to sample packs and EDM loops for DJs and producers. That shift is part art, part strategy. We talk guitars, bass lines, MIDI controllers that mostly behave, and why wired headphones beat Bluetooth in the studio. Reliability wins. If a transport button doesn’t map to the DAW, it costs takes, not just patience. Layer that with a smarter content pipeline, and you have a creative engine that actually runs.
Zooming out, we dig into the business behind good ideas. Tesla’s genius meets weak deal flow. McDonald’s turns process into scale. Gaming lives between exclusives and cross-play. We break down royalties and syndication as the quiet money creators forget to chase. Then it gets personal: clearing space, letting go of old ties, and building resilience—like buying land, camping light, learning hard skills, and being useful if the grid ever flickers. We close with a tight guide to auto shops: how labor is billed, why scopes matter, and how to get approvals that protect your wallet. Through it all, one thread holds: know your worth, cut friction, and ship work you’re proud of.
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Yeah, it's like I've said before, uh New Year's is more like of a couple's thing or you know married or whatever or young uh uh young person's thing. It's a game. It's not I don't I don't do New Year's, I never really have anyways.
SPEAKER_00:Even you know, what's with even if you're a couple after so many years of doing it like rather than first three years three years, that's a week, three years, right?
SPEAKER_01:Uh we're still obviously trying to find our format and and our our thing.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, definitely, definitely. Slowly but surely. And I mean four months, man. Four months we've been doing this. And it seems to be getting better, to be honest. Going on four months. Still still a couple of things to work on, but uh as far as I could see, you know, hopefully we could get um we should start doing video soon too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean we have the capability now, uh, but slowly we'll start incorporating it. Like I said, we'll let's go through the process of just doing some test runs during some episodes, and it's nice to at least have backup of our audio. True. You know, two two recordings of our audio. That way, if this thing fails, then we can go back to the audio or vice versa, and you know.
SPEAKER_00:What do you think about uh what do you think about any other challenges?
SPEAKER_01:I know like four like oh no, we're definitely I'm still planning on doing uh you know I'm st I'm still planning on doing the sub challenge again, but I want to have to prepare myself for that was awesome. Yeah, but I I definitely want to do the Goodfellas or the is it the Goodfellas uh pizza?
SPEAKER_00:Goodfellas pizza? What is that? That's the giant slice or is it a whole pizza?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, the two the two giant slices.
SPEAKER_00:How big are they? They're pretty.
SPEAKER_01:Supposed to be 63 inches each, so probably about a half a pizza. Oh, that's not too bad. Yeah, you know. Just half a pizza? Just roll the blunt and yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just smoke on the way there. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
SPEAKER_01:But the only thing is I think it's just on Mondays. All day Mondays. All day Monday? Yeah. Lunch specials on Mondays are I forget. But and I know it's a Monday thing for sure. So you want to do it, you gotta we gotta. I was thinking if you can't, if you can't take the day out whenever I do decide to do it, then I could just, you know, take the day off myself and take the bus out wherever it is. I'm not even sure where it's at. I think it's more than likely it's off of Cicero or something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that or uh half a day.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, depending on how full I am, though. That's the reason I'm saying, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, definitely got some um some some things working in the woodworks coming for this for the show.
SPEAKER_01:For sure. We like we were talking about too. Um might as well. I'm shifting my focus on my music stuff. I mean, I'm still working on my own personal music, but I decided that I'm gonna uh try to my hands at the sample pack stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Um samples. I did hear some uh some of the beats you had, they were pretty good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I might, you know, work on EDM beats and all that stuff too, like sample packs and all that. EDM beats are high. So I'm we might be throwing some background music from me, and maybe I can start slanging some sample music packs for DJs and producers and people out there looking to do their own thing.
SPEAKER_00:That would be cool, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_01:Might as well, you know, time to put this uh computer and software in the corner and start making you know making making and make me some make me some money, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Make me some money. We're half of the money.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly, buddy. No, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, it's it's a nice little setup from from when we started four months ago.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then so it's only gonna get bigger from here. Like you look, I got that electric guitar now, too.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You know, I have that bass that's slowly I've been working on to get sound playable. I mean, it's playable now, so I might start for dropping down some bass beats bass lines.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then I got this little keyboard, I might get a bigger one actually, a full keyboard.
SPEAKER_00:No, that one's nice though. I mean, for the start.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah, this is a good little sampler, especially for figuring out the whole elect electronic MIDI controller aspect of it. But uh definitely a full keyboard to do bass and and uh treble at the same time, uh lows and highs at the same time. I mean, I could still do it. It would just be twice the work because I'd be work be having to do the high part and then go back and re-record the bass lines, the the low parts on the keyboard.
SPEAKER_00:So so you like let's say someone's starting up and coming up and they want to do like beats and stuff like that, you think it would be a good one to start off with?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, for this, yeah, especially, yeah. I mean, I got it off of Timu, and it was I mean, to be honest, though, for ten dollars more, you could I could have just gone to Guitar Center and gotten something something just as comparable, but I think it probably would have been a little bit better, just because it's you're getting it from a music store as opposed to like from Timu, which is you know, yeah, and but no offense, it does it does work really good. It connects and is compatible with pretty much all the controls are compatible with my DAW and my DAW software.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:I think but I wish the the transport controls would connect, that would be make it easier. Because if these three buttons, four three buttons would connect, then I could instead of having to go here and hit the record button and all that stuff here, I could just hit stop here, hit record, hit. Oh, those are just for show? I mean, I'm sure they connect to other other DAW systems, but for some reason it's not connecting to this one. I've tried everything.
SPEAKER_00:So that's good to know. That's good to know.
SPEAKER_01:That's another thing, too, is like you know, you you're asking all these questions about the technical side of all this, and figure I might start even, you know, doing some short videos on reviews on some of this stuff, or even just beginners uh videos for people that are looking to figure out how to connect the technical issues on connecting these instruments or something. I mean, I know they have plenty out there, but you know, it'll be something to break bones and uh you know get uh get more of a experience in in case I want to the focus is eventually to shift to something else, right?
SPEAKER_00:So right.
SPEAKER_01:I mean that's the beauty of this of this whole thing is that we could always switch it up and I mean look at how how far we've been we've I mean aside from just the podcast and and what we're trying to achieve there, look at what we've accomplished so far in these three weeks, dude. We've gotten I like to think we've done some stuff that has gotten uh you know gotten us out of our comfort zone or definitely, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01:There's been some we went out there, we did a video, I picked the fuck out, I deep throated a uh meatball sandwich, I deep throated some meatballs.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I honestly it looked like it's a good meatball if you were just sitting there to enjoy it. I mean, not that it wasn't enjoyable.
SPEAKER_01:If I was sitting there being able to just enjoy it with no eyes, I probably I feel like I really would have been able to kill it.
SPEAKER_00:But when you're sitting there and they got like you're like a eyes on it, yeah, bro. It's difficult. It's everybody walked in looking at you like you was uh one of those zoom animals looking at you like that.
SPEAKER_01:Pretty much, pretty much. But um But I mean that's the whole part of it, right? That's a good way to get up the company, to get our names and stuff out there and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_00:You know what that that would have I think that would have been if we could if we could accomplish one. I mean, like you say, we have accomplished pretty much a lot of things on the way here.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00:But if we could get our name on the board, that would probably be another bonus of people looking us up.
SPEAKER_01:And what else have we done that the the even it's even took in taking us out of even outside the podcast and content creating to be getting out there and checking out the meat market and checking out you know just the city is what's what's out there and checking out the city too. So I mean we've gotten out a few times and just you know, I and I was thinking too, maybe we should start taking the microphones with us and doing some con content out, you know, streaming like you were saying. You know, it's funny because we don't have to do like you fucking 10-15 minutes of a video. We could do small snippets here and there. We can take that and weave it throughout the night and chop and screw it up. Like I said, edit it out, you know, edit the good parts and all the stupid fella crap we just cut out and make a it'll be something to fill up our our videos or our podcast videos. Like this is what we did, you know, do like a little snips, two, three minute fucking montage video of like what we did the other night like going out when we went to the liquor store and checked out some stuff and all that.
SPEAKER_00:So that and uh there's people out there who got any uh requests, like I like we always say, you know, they want us to try out a little bottle or like a little beer or something, or sure, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean anything and everything. Uh hopefully we we we can start a community here, which we've been trying to do. Right so people please hit that subscribe button, smash it up.
SPEAKER_00:I know uh like yesterday when we went to to get that pizza, that was a quick little two-minute funny little sketch.
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I dude, I literally, there was there was like a gang of people waiting for pizza. Dude, it was it was packed. It was it was uh right there at Sam's Club, dude. And I all I told the lady was like, yo, let me get that meat lovers pizza. That pizza's fire though. Right? And and I swear, bro, you so sometimes what I think is like some people will go and they're like, Yeah, let me get that pizza. They'll be like, oh, it's gonna take us like 10-15 minutes to make. And they'll be like, Alright, I'll be right back. I'm gonna go pick up some stuff. And I think I happened to come along and I told the lady my name was, you know, someone.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to Stanley, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, shout out to Stanley, right?
SPEAKER_01:Because I think she says pizza.
SPEAKER_00:I think she got my name mixed up anyways, and then the dude was like, Meat Lovers Pizza for Stanley. And I ordered a meat lovers pizza, and I ain't Stanley, but I said, for that moment, I'm Stanley, my boy. Let me get that meat lovers. He looked at me like you ain't no Stanley, and that would have been a funny little clip to because you know, you know how like when you're at the store, bro. Like you're I remember uh Kmart. You remember Kmart used to have little Caesars in the bank?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, uh Target too. Target, Target, Target too. They used to have they used to have little Caesars.
SPEAKER_00:But imagine, bro, you're Stanley, you go for a little quick little grocery shopping real quick after you just place your order for pizza and you come back, you're like, yo, where's my pizza at? You guys said they're like, oh shit, you know. That that pizza was fire, though. Dude, that pizza was bomb, dude. It was delicious. And and shout out to Sanska, because you know, they're a little bit not knocking Caesars or nothing, but they are a little bit bigger, and they're not even that much of a slightly bigger.
SPEAKER_01:They're uh what like a dollar 75 cents?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think it was like a dollar 75 cents, dude. They still got their dollar fifty hot dogs with the cobble with the biggest.
SPEAKER_01:That thing was bomb. That thing was fire. Although I will admit, dude, I pain at the toilet this morning, dude. Like I it was it was like I I woke up because you know how it was for me yesterday, and I was like trying to figure out what how my day went yesterday and everything, and then I because I was like, dude, what the hell? It's like I was literally yeah, dude. I was I was peeing water, bro, for like a good 15-20 minutes, dude. Like, what the hell's going on?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we did have that those six packs. Those are those are pretty good. I'm not gonna lie, I like those better than the cans. That's just me. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, it was it was crazy, dude. It was crazy because like that's what woke me up, and I was like, I mean, it was great. It was you know, at the end of it, like, oh, it's one of those ones that leaves you like, yeah, that was good, you know. Leaves you leaves you in euphoria. Yeah, yeah. It was a euphoric one.
SPEAKER_00:No, that one was decent. That one was good, and it was New Year's Eve, and and it was a short day at work too, anyways. Yeah, which you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it was a I left you know 30 minutes early, but yeah, uh, it was like and and I didn't really get too messed up yesterday, I'll I'll admit, but I mean I did halfway through the day, I was just really feeling it. You know how like when you've been doing it like every like almost two days straight, and you're in your third one, and you're like a couple of shots in, all of a sudden your body is just like everything's sluggish, and you know, yeah, that's uh yeah, that's kind of how I felt throughout half the halfway through the day. But when we got here, did the pot, and you know, I think we well, we went to the thing first. I was feeling sluggish, but once we we took those beers, yeah, it did kind of help. Not it did. I mean, I definitely picked out that pizza definitely helped that. I'm telling you, everybody's getting that meat lovers. Everybody, yeah, they definitely was because uh it was it was looking good, smelled good.
SPEAKER_00:That's yeah, might as well for the price, you can't go wrong, right? Yeah, I mean, you get like two of those bad boys, you're feeding the whole family.
SPEAKER_01:We ate like kings, bro, and think they are that that's why it was so packed, too. I mean, what's better than seven dollar extra large pizzas with fresh ingredients to a New Year's Eve party?
SPEAKER_00:You know what I mean? You know, and I'm not you know, not saying that other peaks out there, but yeah, yesterday, dude, that's that shit was calling my name.
SPEAKER_01:Me, I was asleep by six. I'm no lie, six or seven or whatever time.
SPEAKER_00:I think I fell asleep like at nine yesterday, dude.
SPEAKER_01:Like I said, uh we were done with the pot at what, like four or five o'clock? For like five thirty? Like five ish? Five is five thirty somewhere running?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I was supposed to go to visit my uh my uncle for many trade. I do remember that. Yeah, that plan fell through the cracks because I just got home, dude. I said, you know what? It's always it's always I'm gonna just lay down, take a little 30-minute nap, and next thing you know, I wake up and it's already 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, I wake up and I'm like, damn. You know? But I know earlier we were talking about this thing about Nikola Tesla and Nikola Tesla. And the whole thing about there's people like that, right? Where they're geniuses, but they're just not business savvy or business. And that's the because I seen this a lot in some dispensaries, right?
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Where there's people who know how to grow the plant, take care of the plant, and there's people who know nothing about the plant, but they want to turn it into this whole, and they're making millions of dollars. Don't even, don't even smoke the plant. You know what I mean? And I get it, but it's just like, man, when you have so much love for something and you create something and and just to be like, you know, you're you're not even not not that most of the people don't even care about making millions, but it's like you're over here living in this shack and you're over here making the you know, growing the product and everything and right, right. I get it, I get it. So that's I seen that, I seen that a lot where somebody's like even McDonald's, dude. Back in the day you used to go to McDonald's.
SPEAKER_01:I was about to say that. Like, you do you know the story about McDonald's? I don't. But go ahead, I didn't mean to interrupt.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, but my thing is back in the day you used to go to McDonald's and it was like a kid's playground. Like you, it has like the it looked it looked like bright colors, they had slides, all this. Now you go, it looks like a corporation. Yep, you know, very sterile, yeah, and it's kind of like what happened. Yeah, yep. So have you seen the movie founder? It's it's some guy who who uh I did, I did, I did see the movie. It was with um that old school Batman character, I forgot his name.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I can't think of it either. At the moment, something um Keaton. Yeah, Keaton, something Keaton. Some Keaton, right?
SPEAKER_00:He goes and he gets a burger and he becomes like fascinated with the fact, right?
SPEAKER_01:It's a loose interpretation uh of um it's a loose biopic interpretation of uh the guy who found McDonald's. He didn't invent McDonald's, he found McDonald's. Because it wasn't uh was it called McDonald's at first? It was always McDonald's, yeah. But it was like I mean McDonald's brothers, I think, at first. It was a two dudes whose last names were two brothers whose last name were McDonald's. And the guy who founded McDonald's was he was a he was a restaurant, uh he was a restaurant, uh real estate and restaurant applying salesman.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I think his lady did his wife at the time might have had his hands her hands on some real estate, and but he was the one going out. He was door-to-door restaurant to restaurant salesman back when you had the traveling salesman, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. That's kind of like how KFC started, no?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, that's that was salesmen's careers back in those days.
SPEAKER_00:You go door to door.
SPEAKER_01:Door you'd be out for like truckers, you'd be out for a week or month, a month or two on end, depending on what you were selling, and they send you to a region where you would have to hit up all these streets and walk door to door selling whatever, or like he was selling restaurant appliances, equipment like uh shakes, machines, and all you know, whatever fryers and right stuff stuff like the can openers and you know, for restaurants, you know, restaurant restaurant quality type equipment type stuff for like drive drive-throughs or drive-ins or whatever, not drive-throughs, drive-ins. Okay, okay, dine-ins and all that. Old, yeah, restaurants, truck stops, you know, stuff like because there wasn't no chains though back in those days.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:It was uh so he uh ends up at this one place and it's not that he was like didn't have any money, he was pretty well off. He's I think he had his own like he was like the middleman for like he bought equipment, he had his own office, he bought the equipment, and then he would go sell it. He would have stock and then he would have to sell it. So it was kind of his own company. I forget what it's like his own middleman type deals, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it seems like he would buy a wholesale and then break it down and go and go, you know, sell it on his own.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So uh anyway, I think don't quote me on all that. Anyways, so he ends up at this one place and he ends up at this one restaurant that's uh that's um uh carryout. They didn't even have tables. It was just easy. You stand on the line, it was just yeah, you stand in the line, it's like a burger stand and you just get your stuff and go sit down somewhere or whatever. Anyways, he checks it out and he sees all these people crowding to this one restaurant, and he notices that these lines are long, but people are getting their burgers quick off the bat and they're in bags, and it's like, well, how do you eat it? And all this other stuff, and well, you just put your hands and yeah. It was a cool, it was a cool scene.
SPEAKER_00:I yeah, I've seen the scene. Yeah, it's like a long line, but he gets there and he's surprised because he doesn't have to wait that long. He orders his food and within minutes he has his food and he's like, Where do I eat it? Yeah, they're like, over there, sir. Wherever you want. Yeah, yeah. And he I think he's amazed by it, and he starts to get this whole thing where he's like, This could be bigger, this could be a bigger so then he he gets interested and wants to meet the brothers, which they're there, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then he gets to know them and finds out that they're like absolute hamburger lovers, and they've been it's it wasn't their only restaurant they've tried their hand before at diners and all that stuff. But they they they really loved hamburgers, so they focused on the hamburgers, and they're the ones that why chains nowadays have those assembly lines to where they can get a burger done as soon as you order it, it's done within like a minute. Yeah, okay. Because they're the ones that invented the whole concept. While this is going, when the order comes in, we already got the fries going and there's already patties, you know. We try to not make them too early and all that, you know. That's that's science. That's science sort of shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because they had it down to a science.
SPEAKER_01:And when you build a burger, you do it this way, and you put you put the mustard on and then you put the lettuce or however they built the burger, that sort of shit. Or whatever burger it is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and they got it down to a science.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, so he thought that was amazing, and he uh so he was like, Alright, well he managed to get them to sell him a certain stock steak in the company, which I think he ended up owning, owning like the minority half of their company. Somehow, like he he was like because he was like, Well, I want to take this nationwide, and they're like, Well, it's only just us two, and in order for it to work, we're the ones that need to be in control of all these restaurants and they don't want to do that. Yeah, he's like, No, so he's the one that ended up the the way big chain uh food restaurant like uh Taco Bell McDonald's, you know how they have that system? He's the one that pretty pretty much invented the fast food system chain model business model, and then he he started building all these McDonald's but he would the thing was he would buy these old restaurants and then convert them into McDonald's. Okay, and then eventually over time, instead of that's how people are able to buy friends. Franchise McDonald's is you you buy the land from the McDonald's owes the land, you buy the land from them, and the the right to be able to use their products. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I hear you. That's why uh I I I f I read somewhere like that. Like they're like, that's why they're a franchise. You just yeah, you buy the land, you you do what you gotta do. And a lot of these places are built almost the same just for that reason. It seems like yeah, kind of.
SPEAKER_01:So you know, some companies do that, some don't.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, just in case, like let's say this place closes down, it's easier to just if you buy it, you could turn it into whatever you want to turn it into.
SPEAKER_01:And so that's why nowadays, anymore, you see more franchises than you do actual corporation, corporate McDonald's. Yeah, like you know when you're in a corporate McDonald's because those suckers are nice, you know, they're they have they're decked out.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they are they do feel corporate.
SPEAKER_01:Like the theme with McDonald's, like the rock and roll McDonald's and all those other McDonald's. That that's all corporation known stuff, you know. Nobody knows franchise, you know, just because they're the you know, that's their their advert main advertised marketing type stuff, you know. Right, right.
SPEAKER_00:No, because I'm telling you, dude, when I was younger, dude, you used to go to these McDonald's, they were all like colorful. They had the McDonald's chairs, they had the they had the playland and everything. And yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like uh I remember they had the big hamburger that you can crawl into.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had all that. And and I remember they even had gaming systems. Some of them had a gaming system.
SPEAKER_01:They're even getting rid of all the tube, the tube, the the new you like the stuff that you see now. Remember how you they used to have all those tubes running everywhere? Those big ones are even getting rid of those just because those things get nasty. Yeah, I mean. I remember working at McDonald's and having to clean clean those things. I mean, they're fun to crawl into, but dude. To clean? The clean dude, those kids are disgusting. Some of the things they running around with dirty hands and you gotta make sure what you last thing you would need is uh uh what is that uh hand, feet, and mouth uh burger, whatever disease or whatever the fuck it's called.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, those are tough. Those are tough, man. But definitely it's uh it's been a change in a lot of things. A lot of things, man. You know, but that's that's where I was talking about the whole people who have this idea but just don't have the business mentality. Yeah, that's you know, and uh and like how we were talking about earlier before we even started, how he created a lot of these things, bro. A lot of these things, the reason we have like Bluetooth, and you know, I still I still wonder sometimes like how I turn something on and it's just like with an Xbox remote, and you you're able to play with no cable connected, because a lot of the things back in the day you had to be connected, you know, you had to your remote had to be connected in order to play, and then yeah, yeah, you know, and even even back in the day for listening to music, you would have to have a little whatever uh the headphones, you know. They still got those nowadays too. So wired headphones, yeah. The wired headphones, a lot of wired things. Not that we don't have them anymore, but yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, to be honest though, wired headphones are definitely more reliable for better for recording equipment than good Bluetooth.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Bluetooth, I feel like it's the signal.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it's good for listening to music, but not for recording music.
SPEAKER_00:So because when you connect it, I feel like when you connect it directly it's automatic.
SPEAKER_01:Like it's the direct line no matter what, there's not gonna be any lag no sort of latency as they call it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I uh I don't know. Maybe it's just me, maybe I just suck at video games, but when I play certain like first first person shooters, for some reason I feel like if I'm connected directly, my guy reacts a little bit quicker compared to like if I'm playing on wireless. Yep, yep. You know, and maybe maybe they don't, maybe they they react the same, but I don't know. That's just little things.
SPEAKER_01:No, I get it. But sometimes too, the batteries have a lot to do with it. True, true.
SPEAKER_00:You know, but then again, I do suck at video games, but hey, I you know, shout out to the video games.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't play online. I don't know if I suck at video games because I don't ever play online. But you know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, I I uh I try to I try to play, you know, I got the game pass, but the dude uh the thing about the game pass is they charge a little too much, and the games they got out aren't you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:I mean it's it's a wide variety, but I it is I I I have my three main games that I play now, and actually the uh the one is on sale for another few days.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:So the seventh, I think. And that's but uh once I'm thinking it's at twenty bucks right now. Once I get that one, dude, I might just cancel. I might just cancel Game Pass. At that point, I don't really need it for any other reason.
SPEAKER_00:Because the thing is, bro, like I I want the game pass, I'm not knocking it, but they just haven't done much with it. You know, they really haven't done much with it. The prices are kind of overpriced for no reason. It's because they're gearing up to do something.
SPEAKER_01:There's no reason to start up any sort of new business model or or change the status quo because they are there's something, something they're doing something, they're gonna come up with something or some new sort of improve something. Well, I mean they're already coming out with that handheld thing, so that's probably one of the reasons why. And so they're probably they're yeah, they had they just came out with um an Xbox Microsoft Xbox handheld, like the PSP.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I didn't hear about that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but it's it's for Xbox, and thing is like Yeah, dude, I'm hearing a lot of stuff like that, but I hear that has its glitches because you can only play certain games. You can't play like the big big name the big that made Xbox you can't play those big ones.
SPEAKER_00:Because um I'm a big fan of Xbox. I love PlayStation, PlayStation obviously has a good like uh made PlayStation for PlayStation has good name brands, right? Like you're talking about God of War. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01:I mean for me growing up was uh Sly Cooper, but yeah, for me the I the only thing that's gotten me going back to PlayStation is God of War.
SPEAKER_00:But there's a couple of other games I know, like uh Ratchet Rank or something like that. Or Ratchet and Clank or Clinton Ranking. There was a dude, there was just the thing about PlayStation is and even Xbox, right? They I feel like they had their household name games. Exclusives. Exactly. Stuff like like I know for some people when Halo came out, a lot of people kind of like not switched to Xbox, but but they had to have you had to have two gaming systems. You either had to switch or or or have the Xbox and the PlayStation.
SPEAKER_01:Is there any Halo games for PlayStation? No, no, it wasn't exclusive, wasn't it? Well, so didn't they have their own shooter game? PlayStation? It was um Destiny, no?
SPEAKER_00:They had a couple actually. They had a couple of no destiny's on Xbox too. No, but uh but the one that they do share is PlayStation and it's like Call of Duty was a shareable one you could play on Xbox 360 or you could play on PlayStation 200.
SPEAKER_01:I think they're getting rid of all that stuff eventually. I mean they have I think so. They each have their main title, exclusive titles, but I think they're gonna eventually phase them out because it doesn't make any sense. I I like they're figuring out that like okay, regardless of whether or I mean I don't know. I don't know how that would that works.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think I don't think I don't me personally, I don't think there's a reason to phase them out. Like if that's your if that's what made you if that because to me what made Xbox wasn't just the fact that you could play music and do all this stuff, but it was the fact that the the game Halo Halo was pretty big, and then I never played playing it actually a couple of times, but I never on online it was always just to trying to play the storyline.
SPEAKER_01:I I like playing storylines, I don't really like playing online with people.
SPEAKER_00:True. But you know, you remember the Landwire parties where everybody would get together, and so for me, the for PlayStation was definitely God of War. Okay, and that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm I know they got I'm trying to remember they have every you know, they have top three. There was another game that was super popular that was kind of like you know, they're like they were better beat betting off each other, like alright, they got Halo, we gotta have a game that's for PlayStation exclusively and that's making numbers just like they are, because you know, everybody loved Halo, everybody was playing Halo, right? Right, and um, but as far as like the whole console war thing, it's tough, man.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think they're saying that the console wars are pretty much over now, except except for those exclusives, but even now it's they're not re it's not ready to compete against each other, it's just to keep their their profits up or yeah, to keep their customers interested and going somewhere else.
SPEAKER_00:The whole gaming thing just went sideways with this whole battle royale. They once once fortnight and everything hit the scene, they stopped making like like well because it's a clo cross-platformer, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, anybody could play in that. Yeah, you can play it on any SSM against anybody, it's like everybody against everybody, the regardless on whatever system you're on, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely. And it's just a bigger map, it's a bigger world, but they're doing more than just that. They're they're you know, you you you got these skins. Yeah, I know I know it's that.
SPEAKER_01:You have like specialized skins for like holidays or for movie, yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_00:And it's just to me, it's ridiculous. I'm not really a big fan of it.
SPEAKER_01:I thought it was cool on uh Dead by Daylight. Dead by Daylight. Never really is uh um Is that like uh You're a person trying to get away. It's you could play it either way. You could either be the killer or you could be the the survivor. And you're trying to you're you're hiding from the the the killer. It's kind of like um like imagine and they had Jason for a while.
SPEAKER_00:Really?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, uh Jason the the killer, Jason with the hockey mask.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01:And he would be searching for you and you would be hiding from him and trying to stay live as long till daylight.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and so eventually over time, what ended up happening is they ended up changing the killer and the background, the themes to different um different horror movies. So they did Jason, they did Freddie Kruger, they did all the main scary the scary movie, like I think they have Chucky on one. All sorts of crazy shit like that. At some point they ended up putting in famous actors like Nicolas Cage did the the the Dead by Daylight where you can play Nicolas Cage. Okay. And recently I think they did like Terrifier that clown, that white clown with the guy's scary. And and those new types of horror movies with killers like that, hard eyes and all those the others type killers. And I think something happened where like they got they got sued by a whole bunch of those people that created those monsters. Yeah, I don't think you just yeah, I mean you you were so they ended up not putting stuff out for a while, but they've been putting stuff out again.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, you have to be careful with stuff like that. That's like copywriting or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, but I mean it's you can get the rights to it, but if you didn't ask for the rights at first, you know, because no company's movies gonna, especially old franchises, are not gonna want to do that because that's how you get people interested in your flicks. Even if it's old ones, that's how you get people renting your stuff. Because when you rent from a streaming service or something like that, a portion of that money goes to the production company. So that's how you get uh royalty checks. That's how artists get royalty checks from their old stuff. Like right now, like for example, like Seinfeld is making bank whenever you see reruns of Seinfeld on any whatever streaming services or Peacock or whatever streaming service, or may or say you rent it, rent the season or something like that, or by episode, a portion of that is going to the actors if it's in their contract, as long as it's called the the show's in syndication, like preruns, they just show reruns and reruns. So every time you see an episode, they're making paint off of that because they're making the shows making still making money from sponsorships and commercials and stuff. You understand what I'm saying? So like, yeah. Because some shows, if they're very popular, companies are like, oh, we want regardless if they're syndicated, you know, if their reruns are from like 10 years ago, it's like they know it's gonna draw a crowd and they know they're gonna be able to put their own commercials in those slots, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:Right. But they are doing a lot of remastering.
SPEAKER_01:And so that's how some of these guys they keep getting paid and they'll they'll make bank, dude. Like still be getting like million a million, two, three million dollars a year for people for just their reruns, dude. Like Seinfeld is an example of that, and and and most of people in that cast, like Elaine and Kramer and Costanza, they they're all making they're all still making money off of those reruns.
SPEAKER_00:You know, uh Seinfeld was alright. I'm not really a big fan of Seinfeld. Not that it wasn't funny.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's hilarious, bro. Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_00:To me it was mediocre. Next to Friends.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Friends was all I mean Friends was good too. I mean, I like them both. But I mean uh Friends was eye candy. It was too much, it was drama.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was like novellas.
SPEAKER_01:Seinfeld was just I mean, granted it they did have their characters too. But I mean, not like Seinfeld. Seinfeld had their storylines and their characters that were just I like uh I like uh the one with the lawyer.
SPEAKER_00:I think his name's Jackie.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, who told you put the who told you to put the part uh the bomb on? Yeah, you put the bomb on?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who told you to drink coffee?
SPEAKER_01:I didn't tell you to drink coffee.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was a good character. You know, I always thought the soup guy was just Jerry playing the soup guy. Oh, um, the soup Nazi. Yeah, I thought I always thought he was just Jerry playing the I could see where I could see that, but no. I thought it was just him playing the soup guy, I swear. You know, he looks just like him, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I could see that.
SPEAKER_00:I can see that. But as far as shows like that, I wasn't into Friends. The only reason I uh remember Friends is because I know like you know, you know what I think it is, bro? Especially for for people who live alone. Like when you're alone and there's nothing going on in the background, you find a show that you kind of like Oh, believe me, I know. You know, like like like you'll just find a show and you start It's called getting old, bro.
SPEAKER_01:That's what old people do.
SPEAKER_00:That no, but that is like sometimes I feel like living by yourself, like you have to have something in the background, whether it be music or just a show, you know what I mean? Like it's there's gotta be something in the background. Like me, I could I could I could lay in bed and just chill, but if there's nothing in the background, I feel like I gotta throw something on, you know, even if I'm not doing watching it or doing nothing. And then the thing is, like, after a while, I'm like, well, if I'm gonna throw something on, I might as well find something that I'm interested that that's gonna catch my attention. And then I start watching a show that I just I'm like, whoa, what the hell am I watching? But then you get so invested in the show. Yeah, you know, that's just me though. Cause like I noticed, like when I was living with my family, I didn't really watch TV like that, or I mean I played video games and stuff, but like not as much as I do now, you know. But you know, I don't know. That's just me.
SPEAKER_01:I get ADD. Now I guess it's kind of active active ADD because like I'll be watching something that I've been binge watching for an hour or two, and then I have to do stuff like I want to go make a tea or go cook something real quick, and I'll let it play. Right, you'll let it play. But then you know, but then I'll go back when I go back, I'll rewind it to watch it later. But that's not like for any other reason than it's just ADD, like, oh shit, I gotta go do something. And like I've caught myself trying to because um since I mopped and all this other stuff, I've been trying to do this new thing where I try not to wear my shoes too too deep, and that's why we notice I have my my boots and all that stuff over here near the entrance and all that stuff. Yeah, you gotta have some house shoes. Well, yeah, I have those uh those sandals, and so the last couple of weeks since I started mopping here, it's like I've been doing that, and I don't mind if other people because uh people hardly come in here anyways, right? Right, right. I'm not gonna be a stickler like that, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:Take off your fucking shoes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, it's ridiculous, you know. But because I know, you know, I'm not gonna clean as often, anyways, but for me, I don't mind walking around. But but I'm trying to get into a once-a-week mopping type thing.
SPEAKER_00:No, yeah, yeah, that's definitely I know what you mean. I'm just I I feel like the same way, like I gotta go and give me some house shoes because when I mop, I don't like wearing shoes that I was wearing outside. I like having the like strictly for the house.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly, and that's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to walk in here and just take my boots off right away.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right there, especially because you know the shop too is really dusty and dirty, and we're tracking that stuff in here and all that. Yeah, yeah. So I've been trying to change trying to stick to a clean a cleaner regime. And if you notice, I mean it's a little bit messy right now, but it's not as so bad as to where I can't just pick it up and throw in the trash and you know, quick 10-minute sweep or whatever of cleaning will.
SPEAKER_00:No, yeah, because uh I'm I'm definitely I've I've I I know what you mean. Like, I'll I'll have signs where like I actually do the little bit deeper cleaning, like then just a quick little clean. But when I do the deeper cleaning, I don't like to wear the shoes. Like once I'm done cleaning and mopping everything, I I like I said I gotta go buy these uh these house shoes strictly for the house. You know, like they're not they're not going outside. And even like let's say I'm done mopping and I deep clean and um you know my family members are gonna hey can I can we stop by? I'm not gonna be like, hey, take off your shoes when you come in, you know. You know, yeah, right. It would be nice to make it.
SPEAKER_01:The floor here too. Look at it. I mean, it just is whether it's clean or not, it looks dirty now. You know, I'm not sure. It's that old of a floor.
SPEAKER_00:No, yeah, no, I hear you. But I did, I did have this friend where like whenever I would go over to her house, and she would always like she she got me into that routine where I would go over, she's like, Can you do me a favor and just take off your shoes? Because she was she was more like uh yeah, like how you see. Yeah, you were we're outside, we're stepping into stuff, and she was really clean. She liked to have her floor mopped in when she mopped, she hated. And I've if I even stepped foot in there with one shoe, she would get your ass out of here, you know what I mean? So I got into the habit of just me, because I remember I not too long ago. I remember I had I had a friend over and she was like, you know, she was chilling and I was walking around. She's like, damn, I didn't even notice you took your shoes off. Should I take my shoes off? And I was like, nah, that's cool. It's just a habit that I have of just whenever, even if I don't really clean like that, if I haven't really mopped in a week, I still have this habit of just taking off my shoes and you know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then it's the same thing for me. It's like I have those sandals that I wear around here. I mean, they I gotta change them because it's been two years that I've had them in this thing. Right. No, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, yeah, it's just you know what they say, you know, you have a like me. I'm not I don't really care, bro. Like if I go visit my mom, I go visit people, I'm not gonna be there and then critique everything and you know, and you know, but like my my little area, like I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I do get messy too, but I try to keep it, you know, nice and because you I think it's a more of a clear headspace. Right, right, right. You know, but that and uh and it's just I don't know. It's just good to just clean up once in a while. Yeah, you know, but I'm not gonna lie, dude, having a garage, when I used to have a garage, it does feel nice, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Because you can do everything especially if you're not using it to park. Exactly, yeah. You know, all the little projects. Like your cave or whatever, right? Where you can sit there, watch TV, and I can maybe have a TV in there and do whatever the fuck it is you feel like doing.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right. It feels like an escape, you know, and it's crazy because uh I never had a garage, dude. And when when I was living over there, out in the outskirts and shit, we had a garage for like a year, bro, and it was lovely, bro. Was it heated? Huh? Was it heated? No, no, it wasn't heated, but you could always just connect one of those little portable heaters and in the summertime, bro. It wasn't that big, it wasn't bad, right? Obviously, dude, I would open a garage, I would kick it there and have a beer, or like you say, you could work on your car, you could work on a bunch of stuff. For some reason, I don't know why, but the garage just feels like a sanctuary, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Like it's more rough and tumble. You can do anything and everything you feel like, and don't worry about like scuffing shit or getting shit dirty.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, exactly. You don't have to worry about stuff getting dirty like that. Like, see the garage, one thing, like I'm not, I'm not like I'll I'll probably sweep the floor, but it's you know what I mean? Right, even though you can avoid getting too much dust and all that stuff. I can't do that. Yeah, but for some reason it's kind of harder to do stuff like that. Yeah, it's kind of harder to do stuff like that in a house, even if you have a basement, right? Like if you have a basement, I know some people like my my you know, my stuff I do growing up, it was a ho was a hoarder, and he had a lot of cool stuff. That's the thing, but then there was a lot of stuff that was just like, yo, we should probably throw it in.
SPEAKER_01:Cool stuff that just didn't work anymore, even though it looked brand new, just because it'd never been used for a long time and it got rusted or corroded or some crap before.
SPEAKER_00:And you know what's funny is like I feel like if you were to go through people's like like people who are extreme hoarders, because there's like me, I I I'll take paper that I probably Don't even need and I'll keep it for a year just in case because I'm worried about like man, what if they what if later down the road they're like, hey, well, remember that paper we gave you? Or you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:I used to be like that, but like in the last few years that I've been, you know, whatever, this place and that place and all that. It's just yeah, you kind of lose things that you don't. Yeah, it's just best not to hold on to stuff, or you know, I it's with people that I I trust still is holding on to it for me, I guess.
SPEAKER_00:It's kind of hard to let go of stuff like that too, especially you know, here at the at the show that never gets to the point I want to switch off real quick and uh no, but that's funny because like those there's like especially with relationships, right? Mm-hmm. And most of mine only lasts about two years, but it's just well, especially the special ones, it's kind of hard to like, like damn, you know, get get throw away a letter or just just get rid of anything really that that they left behind or that, you know. It's tough, man. It's tough because you all it's like for me personally, I feel like you can't move on if you don't let go of the past, especially things that are from the past, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:It's funny because I found some remnants of stuff. You know how I told you I'd I'd throw away some stuff? Right. I ended up fine, like I opened a drawer that I hadn't opened in a long while. The forbidden drawer. Yeah, I didn't. I thought I had gotten rid of everything. No, well, that's not true. I knew that there was something, I knew there was something missing, one or two things.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And but yeah, I just gathered them all all up because like she gave me some Catholic artifacts that you know, like a keychain or whatever. Yeah, I hear a crucifix with Jesus on it, and she gave me a book on a I guess it's some popular book about the last day uh of Jesus' life when he was going through the march and all that other stuff, and how what he was feeling every moment by moment, and whip and whip by whip and all that whip. Stuff I was supposed to read the you know, that was kind of like put in the back. Well, you know, and then she gave me like another card that had Jesus or an angel on it, and all that. Like I said, for me, I'm not used to having these what seem like uh kind of idolatrous. I'm not talking smack, but to me, I just it's hard for me to to kneel down and pray to somebody that's not the Lord.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:No, I hear you.
SPEAKER_01:I hear you know to each their own, whatever. It works for you, it works for you. That's great. As long as it's making you into a better person, right, a non-violent person, you know, peaceful person, uh great for you, but I I'm just not used to it. I wasn't raised that way.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right.
SPEAKER_01:But I I don't know what to do with it. I don't I I don't I don't want to throw it out. I don't want to throw it in the trash. Right, if you're disrespectful or well, you it just feels weird to me, dude. It's stuff she gave me.
SPEAKER_00:Set it up in the shop. They like that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:No, I don't want to do that either. I think I'm just gonna it's the that's that sort of stuff that like I now I'm I'm understanding why people hold have boxes of uh of old people stuff. I mean, I mean, granted, a lot of that stuff is like weird, like panties and uh you know, like pictures or whatever. You have some in the boxing pictures or whatever. Yeah, but this is just stuff that it's just religious artifacts that it like regardless of whether I believe in it or not. I just don't feel right throwing it out.
SPEAKER_00:No, I hear you. I hear you. There's probably like you could probably drop it off at a church, or you just like just get a box, like you said, a little box, five out of your box.
SPEAKER_01:Put it away, yeah. You just take it away somewhere.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. You never know when you're gonna get some more stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. But no, it's definitely hard to let go, man. But I feel like it's just the best because you I holding on to the past, bro, I feel like doesn't let you appreciate the now. Well, yeah, and that. And if you find like I know most people really just after that, they're just not really looking. But if you let's say you do happen to come across somebody, bro, I wouldn't want to be with somebody that's still holding on to the past, too. You know, because I'm like, well, believe me, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like I don't know, maybe it's just me, maybe past relationships I've built, so stuff like that too. I don't like that, bro. Ugly petty shit.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like that. Yeah, it's like to me just best to avoid. Yeah, dude. That's why like if I if I meet somebody, bro, and she still got stuff from her ex, she's still texting her ex, I'm like, I'd rather not. I'd rather not. Because to me, it's almost like you're hoping that it'll there'll be a rekindle or something. Right, right, right. And and I get it. And I get it, but the thing is, don't play me. Don't say, Yeah, you're ready to move on, and the whole time you're holding on to your ex's stuff. Like, if I'm moving on with somebody new, it's because we're ready to start something new, a new chapter in the in the life, you know what I mean? Right, and you can't start a new chapter holding on to old pages.
SPEAKER_01:That's true, yeah. I mean, me personally, it's just time, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I like it. Like, I beside from that stuff, I still have to throw out the other stuff that's obviously it's like uh some overnight shorts that she left or whatever and all that. But I mean, this other stuff, I was I'm still gonna have to figure out something to do with it. But yeah, I just figure it's time. It still sucks. Like I said, I'm still trying to, I'm gonna keep to myself for a while. Right.
SPEAKER_00:But you never know, man.
SPEAKER_01:It's just time to just, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And I'm not talking about just materialistic stuff. There's also like, I mean, obviously, right? It's obvious when you as you get older, you shed skin and you you become a different person through, you know, old habits die out. But there's certain things like me, bro. I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be chief until I die. You know, but certain obviously there's certain times where I know I have to like take a little break and just get things done a little bit. And not that, not that I was getting things done even when I was chief and or not, right? Yeah, yeah. But I know a lot of people they'll turn they'll turn to like to like religion when they hit rock bottom or whatnot, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:No, I mean I'm I'm uh not a religious person, but I do I'm like I said, I am consider myself a man of God, and I do like to sit and meditate and try to read the Bible or at least study a little bit on my own about it. Right.
SPEAKER_00:And this you know, the it's a it's a crazy story, the Bible, man. Getting swallowed up by fish and stuff. Yep. Yep. That's crazy. That was crazy, dude.
SPEAKER_01:But uh, it's good to just let go, anyways. And so, like for me, I think it's just time, especially, and it's a good good time to kind of place it, even though I'm I'm also one of those people that doesn't really believe in New Year's resolutions. It's not really a resolution, but I do think it's time that it for me to suffer in silence. No, yeah, I think it's and not to say that I'm suffering too much, but it's like I think it's just time for me to just be happy and slowly I am get out there uh enjoying those those moments, those memories from our time together. Yeah, mine and hers time together. So it's just like it's time to just enjoy that, and hopefully it doesn't get me all kind like a little pussy, like in public or whatever. Cause you know, I have caught myself a few times recently. Right, especially in the Yeah, but it's like here in privacy of my four walls here, so it's like but yeah, man. Yeah, well you're stranger things this morning, dude. I'll admit this I I had one of those mornings, not because I was stuck in my head about it about that, but because Stranger Things. The last episode just came out last night, and I watched it this morning when I woke up. And it's a tearjerker, man. It's like tearjerker, tearjerker, bro. Especially if you were invested in the show and watched it from the beginning.
SPEAKER_00:It's hard, dude. It's hard for me. I tried, I'm not gonna lie, I tried in the first 10 minutes. I see you. I don't know, man. I get it, I get it. You know, it is hard, and then the thing is, bro, I get it, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Sometimes they get a little too let me ask you this as far as squid games, how how deep are you into the squid games? Me? Yeah, I watched it all. All three up all three seasons? Then you went too. Uh oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. This is gonna be the last season for manager, it just got cancelled.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. And uh I it's hard for me to cry, dude, and especially. So you've seen all of them. I seen them all. I seen them all. And I don't know what you're on, which one uh which one you left off on. But it it's just the thing I like about it is I like a movie where because you hear I feel like American movies brow a lot about action, mission impossible, a lot about like explosions and killing. Yeah, no, I get it. I like a movie that could give you that could keep you entertained and interested without so much killing and and but this is more like betrayal. These are more like betrayal. This is like a chess game. I feel like I'm watching a chess game, you know what I mean? And I watched it to the end.
SPEAKER_01:Uh it's called more like of a suspense kind of thriller.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? And and these are kind of games that we played growing up, jumping, jumping. Show them, yeah, yeah. Tug of war, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Marbles, tug of war, yeah, marbles, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I mean? And so you and then you could kind of relate because for me, in my opinion, it's they're they're coming from desperation, you know, from from financial desperation, from wanting the dream. Sure, and that's kind of like the that's kind of like like imagine playing the Powerball, but instead of having to buy a ticket, you are the ticket. Yep, you know what I mean? Your soul's exactly, and and I feel like if they were to do that in real life, a lot of people would join. Because when you have nothing to lose, okay, and they're offering you billions of dollars to play a game, and you don't care if you live or die anyways, and you have you're living on the street or whatever it may be. A nine times out of ten, people are gonna take that chance. Yeah, totally. You know what I mean? It it would whether they live or die, it's like, well, I don't got nothing to live for anyways. So the concept was pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01:It was pretty cool. I don't think I I've never been one, yes, I've always wanted and needed money like that, but like to give your life to and I'm that's the thing.
SPEAKER_00:Like, me, I don't think I would either. I'd rather play the powerball and just scratch off a ticket and wait to see, you know what I mean? But it's almost like imagine if one day you do you just you I mean the the powerball itself is something a dream. I don't me personally, I don't believe in the Powerball. I feel like it's a scam.
SPEAKER_01:Because you know, it's like well believe me, I've I've won 300 or over$300 in one ticket.
SPEAKER_00:So it's when you've won like scratch powerball or scratch off?
SPEAKER_01:Power uh just powerball. Like those tickets. Now imagine though, like it sounds like you've never actually won a big amount of money off of uh one of those tickets, right?
SPEAKER_00:I'm not gonna lie, dude. I only played once in my lifetime.
SPEAKER_01:Believe me, when you win something that's like cash in hand, because it's it's under six hundred dollars. If you win like anything under six hundred dollars on a ticket, you can walk into the store and kid they'll give you your money cash in hand. Right. Anything over six hundred dollars, you have to go to the office. Right. And it all it changes state per state that's here. But uh when you win over three hundred dollars cash in hand and you only pay two dollars for next year, yeah, exactly. It changes your perspective, dude, and it gets you it gets you hyped up, it gets you willing to it loosens up your wallet, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:No, and I uh and I understand it because it's like imagine, bro, a two dollar like you you invest two dollars and the next day you wake up a millionaire or a billionaire that's what I'm saying, yeah. That shit. But it's just I never I never met nobody, right? I never seen nobody close to me. I never I I hear it on the news, but to me, it's all a facade to get people to invest.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I get that, but it believe me, you and I I was skeptical too after playing for a while. You don't really win much, but after a few times that you won, like I said, like$300 or like$500 or something, not a scratch off, not a screw and even the scratch-offs. I think one time I won$150, but that that's like fuck a long time ago, you know. But what I'm saying is when you're skeptical and you've only been winning like five dollars or a dollar here and there, and then all of a sudden you win like a$500,$550,$550 ticket or something like that, and then it's like, well, maybe maybe this stuff is real, you know?
SPEAKER_00:I you I don't think it could be fake, because I feel like that would be that would be a big problem. That would be like well, you wouldn't hear about it for sure. Yeah, uh, because I mean how long can you do, how long has the Powerball been around, and how long can you really do it without people actually like you know, cause because I don't know, bro. I feel like they're just actors, right? I feel like there's just people that are actors, and then they they say, Oh, this guy won so and so much money, and you feel like damn, that could be me. And you every time that you hear about the Powerball, like the last one was like two or like 2.
SPEAKER_01:This last one a couple weeks ago was like uh 1.7 billion.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but dude, even after taxes, that's a life changer, bro. That's a life changer. That's a dude with that type of money, and and this is how I don't get I mean I kind of get it. I kind of get how people could go broke, even if you're even if you're an A plus R movie star or A plus actor or whatever it may be. I would disappear, man. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying though, but it just seems like I wouldn't say money isn't everything because it definitely helps in life, but you hear about some of these people, man, who got it all and they commit suicide or they you know you don't know what to do with it, and everybody changes script on you quickly.
SPEAKER_01:They who whereas before, you know, like people treated you like crap for no reason at all, and you were the most nicest guy, push over, and now it's like people are willing to get stepped over you as long as maybe they can get some money off of you, or you know, get you to invest in their idea or some other bullshit, you know.
SPEAKER_00:That's true. And with money like that, I mean you're pretty much I would disappear though.
SPEAKER_01:I really would disappear. Don't get me wrong, you know. I I would make myself definitely scarce and unavailable then.
SPEAKER_00:Uh you know, I would invest like like uh Squid Games real estate for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Be like Squid Games.
SPEAKER_00:You had to get a card to and get kidnapped to come see me. You gotta get kidnapped and yeah, yeah. Like a ring or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You definitely have to, you would definitely go through security to be able to get to me for sure. Straight up. And uh background check and everything now. Like, you know, that call screening that I have on my phone and why are you calling? That's gonna be on no matter what.
SPEAKER_00:Can I tell you why you're calling this man? You want some of his money? You better not, you know, yeah, no, but I think that's the whole thing about like retiring too, right? It was kind of hand in hand because I feel like people they they dum you have such a routine, you wake up, you go to work, and then like me being on vacation when I came back, there is this thing, like if you don't have a a hobby, a routine, or something that's keeping you going, yeah, I could see why some of these people who when they retire, they don't they don't they get kind of sad or they get kind of whatever it may be.
SPEAKER_01:You're you get isolated because you you eventually do feel like I said, people change scripts on you, and eventually you just don't feel like needed or you just feel like people are fake and it's like what's the whole point? Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_00:But waking up the next day with that much money in hand, you could definitely have a good hobby, you know, because hobbies are expensive. I know some people like they like like anything could be a hobby, you know, especially guns, right? Like, dude, that shit adds up buying guns, the ammunition to clean them, the range time, the equipment, you know, that's a hobby in itself. Just a lot of things, man. But me personally, I think I would just start growing bud. Oh, yeah, guarantee, dude. I would start growing bud, dude.
SPEAKER_01:I would have I would have uh property for that. I would have a lot of I would probably even have uh if if if if at all legal combine it with a winery, even right. And that's the thing with a vineyard, I mean, you know, have a ranch too, all that other stuff. That's what I'm talking about, and also buying property and land everywhere.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, definitely, bro. That's that's the see uh that's the smartest move is with that type of money, is just doing something like that, like investing first and foremost, a laundromat, bro. A chain of laundromat.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, you know what? Nah, no lie. I'm really, really that's no lie. I'm really investing in something like if I had the money, if if I were to win even like a couple million, a couple hundred thousand dollars or whatever, I would I know half of that would end up having to go to my my debt, and then the rest of it would go into doing that. Because the laundromats all year round, yeah, and they charge.
SPEAKER_00:They charge. I went to go do my laundry not too bad, not too long ago, bro. And you're I mean, for one person, I think I spent like maybe like 35 bucks, 40 bucks just on drying and washing. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:It's not that much, but laundry mats and definitely dry cleaners. So we can get a dry clean cleaning equipment. You think dry cleaners are dying out? It almost seems like they are.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, in major cities, they're not gonna die out.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, but I mean, first of all, I'd never really seen dry cleaners in small towns. I think if dry cleaners do die out, it's because the industry is changed around there, you know what I'm saying? In the economy for sure.
SPEAKER_00:Could you trust a robot though to do your cleaning? Like if you put up to a dry cleaner and they're like, yo, we got this new system, we got this new AI buddy, like iRobot. I mean, I I've seen those videos, I don't know. Not really.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You seen the ones about the self-driving, the selfless driving car? Like you would let's say you order an Uber, a car pulls up, but there's nobody in it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, there's a whole bunch like that in in uh certain cities.
SPEAKER_00:Would you drop would you jump in one?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_00:I've been hearing a lot of problems with those. The dude locks the door on you and he drives you off a cliff. Yeah. Imagine who's gonna believe you who's gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:They want to send you back your deck. You're directing people off of uh unfinished bridges and or you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I seen uh some of them want to send you down like dark alleys and shit. Like, make a left here. I'm like, I'm not making a left on this dark ass alley, right? Bunch of crackheads out there, but no, back to what um I don't know, I don't even know.
SPEAKER_01:Hard I mean it's all kind of interconnected, but I don't even know.
SPEAKER_00:We were talking about we were talking about uh if we need the lottery, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would definitely give my own plant and uh probably sell to dispensaries and because I feel like you guys have to have a hobby, bro. You have to have a hobby, you have to do something because even like I I as much as I want to retire, I do think about okay, if I do retire, you can't just sit home all day and you know what I would really want to do? What's that?
SPEAKER_01:First of all, like I I wouldn't want to live extravagantly. Uh I don't think that my my I would definitely have more better stuff. Oh, of course, like a cool. You know what I mean? But you know how how you see here? I mean, definitely better, a better couch. You know, you know what I'm saying. Right, right, right. But as far as comfortable and all that other stuff, I upgrade my what I have now. Right. To to a nice moderate try to live is is is minimal because I'm a minimalist to begin with. I don't, you know, I'm not one to hang out personal pic hang up personal pictures. Now lately I've been interested in hanging up like uh prints of like portrait uh paintings and uh famous paintings and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But uh aside from that, is I would love to buy like like land I can I like a big parcel of land, like acres and on acres, where I I would like just throw I guess like RVs or or or mobile units, mobile trailers everywhere.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Just drop them like I'm talking like hundreds of hundreds hundreds of acres, all like this, and then say it's like a parcel like this with like woods and like prairies and near mountains and all that stuff. Drop like a trailer here, a trailer there, along the edges, just and then just go camp, dude. You understand what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that would be cool. That would be cool.
SPEAKER_01:Just go camp, dude. Just just get to know your land, bro. Just walk around taking the find flora fun, just for that, just only for that. Just to camp. Yeah, yeah. That'll be cool. You know, and you know, just take like I said, stealth camping. Stealth camping. You're on in your own territory, but you know, I'm still talking about like what I'm talking about is like try to make it to where like you go out with the most minimal of things and the most lightest equipment to just be able to be out there, yeah. And and I've always wanted to definitely be able to At some point, hunt my own food, and I think that would be a good way to do it. That would be a good survival uh because if it's your land, I really don't even think you you need a a hunting license or permit. If it's your land if it's in your land, you can you're able to if you if you kill what's in your legal property, it's yours.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's yours.
SPEAKER_01:Fair game or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:And uh honestly, dude, I'm surprised that shit hasn't hit the fan in a while, right? Besides COVID. But like let's say the grid did shut down, bro. We're so used to just going to the market to get our food that I don't think a lot of people actually would know, even if they brought, even if someone brought them like food, how to skin it, how to cook it, how to and that's one of the things I feel like that we lost a long time ago. And maybe there's some people out there that still do it, you know, tribes people. I'm pretty sure there's some tribes out there still that still hunt and kill their uh have you heard of the Sentinelese?
SPEAKER_01:What's that? And there's this island called the sent the Sentinel Islands? The Sentinels.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds like a straight up like like the Sentinels.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's that island. I think we talked about it before where some they won't let people, strangers is that that one island with put dog shit everywhere and uh no no no no no. This is this island is straight up a tribe of people that won't let other they're shut off to everything, everything. All the people in that island, and they're connected, it's a big island, and it's it's divided, and the other people kind of they let other people in, but like these people shut even those people out of the island and they're of their part of the island, and they just live in you know, like tribes people like well they're probably separate or if shit did hit the fan because you'd like like how we were talking about yesterday, dude.
SPEAKER_00:The cities are too crowded. You have apartments with three stories, and each story could house at least 10 people max, but minimum they they keep it to a minimum, I think it's like six people, right? Yeah, even where I was living, it was a three-bedroom apartment with like six of us, sometimes seven of us, and sometimes some people had to sleep together in one room. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean? And that's just one apartment, and one block is at least like 20 apartments, dude. And you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:If she hits the fan, bro, that's gonna be that's what happens a lot too.
SPEAKER_00:You know, so to be to be in a tribe, would you consider Normans a tribe? Who are not not Normans, uh the Amish people? Would you consider them a tribe? The Amish? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, they are they do consider themselves some sort of a tribe.
SPEAKER_00:Because you can't you got you can't, I don't think you could join, right?
SPEAKER_01:I think you have to be born into it. You could it all depends. I mean, you could join. I just feel like there's you have to be willing to it's just hard for people to integrate that never lived that sort of lifestyle.
SPEAKER_00:I just think there's some sort of stability and be in like yeah, no, like if she were to hit the fan, I feel like half the people like that were like the tribes people, the Amish would probably not not be wary because they're like, all right, we we got this grounded like here, bro. I feel like if she hits the fan, it's everybody for themselves.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, if if if the internet went down and uh I'm talking about a whole like the whole power. Yeah, permanently, yeah, it it'd be every man for themselves. And that's kind of like looting would start looting would start like probably within the next hours, and then once the stores got word emptied out, then people would start breaking into other stores, start yeah, putting up barriers and and fortresses and then starting eventually at some point though you're gonna run out of supplies, and what do people do? They start going looting other people, robbing other people.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I know I know within certain communities they'll probably start little tribes within there'll be little tribes within communities, but yeah, but doubtful. Yeah, even then, that even then that only works for so long. True. That'll be like a whole restart. A whole restart just on life, just in the world itself.
SPEAKER_01:That's just one of the reasons. I mean, I don't think we'll ever see anything like that. Have you seen that movie? Uh speaking of in that similar uh sense fashion. That movie with uh it just came out on Netflix, uh uh Leave the World Behind.
SPEAKER_00:I I think I heard about it, but I don't think I've seen it.
SPEAKER_01:With Julia Roberts and uh Ethan Hawke. Julia Roberts.
SPEAKER_00:Where they go on vacation and then oh, like stuff starts flying off the sky. Like and I aren't they renting a home? They're not renting a home, they're like an Airbnb. And then uh Star Star, yeah, Starstar.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like communications go, Wi-Fi goes down and all that. And then the owner comes back, an old tanker hits the land hits beach and all that stuff, yeah. Yeah, and then I think like the owner comes back, but there's like some twist, and then there's a a weird noise that happens and flyers come from the ground, yeah. Yeah, that was in a foreign language or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that was a good one, dude. That was a good one, actually.
SPEAKER_01:You know, because they're saying that if anything, if anything's gonna happen, if there was to be any sort of war against us like that, uh in our territory in our land, it would be something like that. I mean, yeah that would be the only way to really didn't you saw what happened to the Uber cars and that or not the Uber cars uh self-sriving cars? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They started crashing into each other and stuff.
SPEAKER_01:They were all they were using them to jam up the the track the highways, right?
SPEAKER_00:The highways and everything, yep. Dude, I mean it's just the cities are too populated, bro. And that's why I'm saying you're not you're not lying, dude. If I were to hit the millions, bro, or billions in the mega in the Powerball, I'd definitely give me a nice little land out there somewhere where it's not too crowded, you know.
SPEAKER_01:And then think about it too. That people don't really consider too much is uh think about what happened with all those pagers and cell phones.
unknown:Damn.
SPEAKER_01:In uh in um recently with the pack with the Israel Muslim with the with the attacks and everything? No, well with the something happened I think just before the war started where or just right when the war started where Israel uh the the Israeli army targeted a whole bunch of cell phones and pagers to blow up and walkie-talkies. You could you could overheat them. Yeah, we're uh part of the Hamas. Whoever they were fighting against and stuff, and they said they killed like they were able to injure or kill or immobilize like over a thousand five hundred a thousand over a thousand five hundred devices went off. Like blew up in less than a minute, in less than in the span of like five minutes. So how do you think they do that? Just overheat them or because I'll I'll send you a link as to the theories as to what happened because I saw like uh one one video about it. But think about that, dude. I mean, they were able to do over the thousands of people in five minutes, damn, blow up their hands. Imagine wherever you carry your cell phone, dude.
SPEAKER_00:And a lot of the times your bucket, your chest, or if you're using it. Oh, if you're using it even worse. And yeah, dude. I mean, it's doable, but it's just because I know back in the day, I don't know if you remember, I think it was I can't remember if it was Samsung or which one it was, but their phones were overheating. Oh, yeah, you know, and uh they were starting to catch fire.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that happened with a few phones, but remember they were at one point, I forget what year it was, but they were talking about uh cell phones with projectors. Cell phones built with a projector built into it.
SPEAKER_00:Is that like the Star Wars, like where you put the like it's like somebody pops up like a hologram? Or actual project? It was like a projector.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, okay, where it projects instead of uh on on your phone, it projects it out onto the yeah, yeah. No, what happened to those? I did see those. What happened to those? That's why it's because uh dude that that projector that light it emits to for you to be able to watch it on the screen. When it's when you have something up to that thing, it's hot, super duper hot. I would I would say it's like a magnifying in there, you know, magnifying the glass with a magnifying glass in the sun that like that little white bright spot is really hot. That's the same thing, the same concept is meeting it and it was so hot. Imagine if it's in your pocket and it's just projecting inside your pocket, that thing they would get overheat because of that.
SPEAKER_00:And and and honestly, what that is it there's there's there's ways that it could accidentally activate because I don't know, even with pens back in the day, like I think they made them more a little bit more sleek, but back in the day, my buddy of mine he had a pen and he said he was chilling and he felt his his pocket get hot and he's like, damn, what the and he checked and his pen was running.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, just not like a well, I mean that's because because you left it on and it's one of those, you know. That's why it's uh that's why nowadays too. You see some of those where it doesn't even have a uh a button. No, you have to hit it. You just take a drag. Yeah. Uh can we take a break? I gotta take a serious piss, or you want me to leave in uh you want me to leave you with the mic?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's cool.
SPEAKER_01:You want to just leave me with the mic real quick and then let them know it's uh it's uh shoot, shooters, uh what grinds shooter's gears segments. I'll tell you what grinds my fucking gears. You really want to know? I'm gonna leave the mic up to shoot.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know to the people listening out there if you guys got a good mechanic that you know, or if you take your sh your car to a car shop or like a mechanic shop. I feel like nowadays it's hard to find a good trusted mechanic out there that's gonna tell you the truth and shoot and and not rip you off or not overcharge you for little stupid stuff. You know what I mean? But that's one of the things that really get me, man. When you just try to take care of your car, and and and and I feel like like, yeah, everybody's different, right? And nobody knows your car better than you when it's making a sound or when it feels off because you're the one driving it every day. And yeah, sure, for sure, mechanics know what they're talking about as well, especially because they work on cars every day. But if you're you you're having a problem with your car and you take it to a shop, you know, do you just take it to a regular shop, any shop, or do you have like a family-owned shop or like a shop you've been taking to for a while? Or have you ever had a bad experience where you take it to a shop and they overcharge you for something and then they don't even fix it? And on top of that, they say it's okay, or you take it into for one thing and they do something else to it. Like there was a story not too long ago where somebody took their car into the shop for I forgot a tire, maybe some brakes or something. They they they go back to the shop to get their car that they only took it in for a simple thing. Maybe I forgot it was brakes, like I said, or maybe a tire change. And they come out talking about yeah, they changed the oil on the car as well. And first of all, I ain't tell you to change the oil. Second of all, why are you changing the oil? I know it's dirty, I know the oil needs to be changed, but I was gonna do that and take care of it at my own time. Now I don't appreciate being, you know, taking the car in for something and them doing other things to it that I never even asked for, you know? So I don't know if our people out there listening wanna leave us a little comment about that and um just see what's up, man. And I feel like nowadays, if you have the space, if you have a garage, if you have the knowledge, it's always best to just I understand certain things you might need to take your car into the shop for, certain things you might not have the tools or the equipment for. But it's something as simple as maybe changing a brake or changing the oil, I feel like should be a good way to just start to get to know your car and just do the things you're you know what they say. If you want something done right, you might as well just do it yourself, you know? And that's one of the things, man. Especially that's one of the things that really get me is if I take it into the shop for something, I do not want you touching other things or doing this and doing that or giving me an oil change when I never even asked for one. You know what I mean? So, because it's it's nice to have a car, don't get me wrong. It's nice to have a car, but at the same time, if you don't really need one, uh and you know, yeah, if you do get one, it's uh get a little get a little nice little beater. I mean, it's nice to have a nicer, newer, brand newer car, but the thing is, what I'm seeing out here is man, I'm running this apholes, and and stuff streets aren't even fixed like they should be. Tickets, you know, speeding cameras, red light cameras, cameras for the cameras, you know, and then you need city stickers, all types of stuff, man. And I understand, man. I mean, if you if you need it, you need it. And if not, I would suggest just suggest. I mean, taking the CTA halfway somewhere you gotta get to, and then taking an Uber, maybe, or just taking the CTA all the way wherever, you know, public transportation, wherever you gotta get to, and then taking that Uber back, because even Uber gets expensive. But, you know, that's one of the things that for sure, man. That one of the things that gets me going. Is taking your car to a mechanic shop for some breaks and getting to know you'll change done on it. You know? That's some crazy stuff right there. But definitely gonna see what's up for dinner later today. I don't know what you got going on for dinner or what you're gonna cook, or you know, but yeah, but I'm definitely uh probably in a few minutes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I mean, you know, we're we're now we're an hour and 15, bro. So whenever you want to kill it, I just you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't know if you got anything on your mind real quick. I was just talking about that that ridiculous ass, like taking your car to oil change.
SPEAKER_01:No, dude, my yeah, dude, my thing is like they're break uh break inspection in the Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Like, how do I go from going like I tell you, look, I'm here for my breaks. I leave with an oil change? Yeah, come on, man. I didn't ask for that.
SPEAKER_01:And you No, no, they uh that's not good business practices.
SPEAKER_00:And my thing is this isn't the first time I heard about this. No, no, it's a thing.
SPEAKER_01:It's a thing, but the reason why is because they're gonna charge you. You're gonna be you're gonna pay. You're gonna get mad and bitch and pay. And if you really want your 60 bucks or your$200 back, guess what? You're gonna have to take them to small claims court.
SPEAKER_00:It's just my thing, bro. It's like, I is it a is it a thing where we're now where like if you go into a so like if I don't go straight to an oil to an oil shop to get my oil change, if I go to a mechanic shop and I tell them, look, I specifically come for this, is it gonna have to come to the point where like don't touch my oil? Is it gonna come to that point where you go to a mechanic shop?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I can tell you is a a lube shop won't do that. No, no, no. Unless you get unless you give them, tell them that's what you're there for, right? And even even then they'll call you and give you an estimate before you okay the work.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I'm saying. And this place kind of didn't, and that's what I was thinking. And I was like, yo, I usually in my in my understanding, like how how things should work, maybe it's not like if I was a shop, right? And before I even do the work, I'd be like, look, this is what I found. I know you came in here for this, but I I we're gonna take care of that, or it it's it's whatever, right? But I also found this. I don't know if you want us to take care of it before don't don't start taking care of shit.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly right. That's how that's how you do it. But like I'm saying, that's that's what they're banking on, is they said, well, they're gonna pay for it anyways. And it's that's and if they want their money, they can set take us to court, but who's gonna take spend waste all that time taking somebody to court for$200?
SPEAKER_00:But that's messed up, man.
SPEAKER_01:Like, you know, no, but that's that's how it is out here in New Big City.
SPEAKER_00:But I feel I feel like nowadays is you go into a certain mechanics, I you gotta say, look, I'm here for this, don't touch my audio, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm a mechanic, so uh honestly I would look at my own stuff. Yeah, no, I just but if I did have to take it some to somebody, it wouldn't be like a personal little one of these little uh rinky dinky as like that you know that tire shop that's just down the street right here, yeah. I would not take them to like I mean I I I would I would go go talk to them first, but when I go to a mechanic, I tell them straight up, like I'm a mechanic. I used to be mechanic. Right. On bullshit. I know how this system works. I went to school for this stuff, I'm only here for this and this and that, and and I'll make it clear, like but before if I'm leaving it there, look, because I won't leave it there. I'll I'll be there, you know, because I'm cheap like that.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm like, I'm just here for this. I won't even ask them to service anything. I'm telling them I'm here for a break inspection. And then because then they'll they'll all they do is look at them, and then they come to talk to you or call you and tell you, well, this the these are looking that way, these are looking that way, this much and this much to check them out. But by then I already know what all needs to change. I'm just gonna ask them for brake inspection.
SPEAKER_00:See, that's better.
SPEAKER_01:Right, and then and they're most still gonna try and sell you brakes all around, even though you might just need the you know, you just need the fronts, right? And and they'll tell you, well, this one, this one's like, well, I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't want to do these. Let's just do the ones in the front. Right. Then you know, those are the ones that need to get. I know those I I know those need to get done. Right, for sure. Let's just do those. So just the ones in the front, and I'm having them repeat to me before we get off the phone. What are you guys doing again? Just this and exactly. So I better not show up. And then quote me. Tell me, tell me the price. Because if they're quoting you with this much of a price, it's because they've already figured out they've already did their total for one break job and they're times in it by however many they're doing. Right.
SPEAKER_00:And that's kind of how I went in there. I was like, hey, I'm here for this. And I was thinking, I was under the impression that they would they wouldn't even start touching anything until you just have to be clear, you have to make everything.
SPEAKER_01:No, yeah. It's it seems like now you know, you know what I mean? Yeah. Especially those small places because they're depending on they'll do the the inspections, but there's they don't make money off of that. Yeah, the mechanic doesn't make money off of that.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, definitely not. And I get it, don't get me wrong, but it's like don't how you how are you gonna expect me to come back when you just did this to me? I'm not coming back.
SPEAKER_01:Because those guys are getting paid by by the work, by the by the you're getting paid time what do they call that? Commissioner for the job they the work they do. If they're not working on a car and they're they they're working at a shop like that, you're making minimum wage. But if you're working on a car, you're probably making like whatever,$25,$30 an hour. Because the shop is charging like I think about five years ago, it was like$80 to$100 and$20 an hour for labor. Yeah, and so you and so uh so when a mechanic is working doing that job, I mean they're charging like eighty to a hundred and twenty dollars per hour for the job. Because they there's a book, and there's like when you have uh I forget the the program on tools or whatever it's called. On board, or I for I forget what it's called, but it's like a database that you look up, what parts you need, you put in the car information, and it'll even give you procedures, manuals. It's basically a database of manuals of for specific cars, what it needs, how to test something, how to change it out, all that other stuff, where to find it, because you know every car is different, every make, every model is different, every brand is different.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And not only that, but it also gives you like a time estimate. Like if you're doing a break job, if you're just saying doing one tire, one break, it's like it'll tell you normally it should take about like point five.75 of which means uh forty-five minutes. Right, right, the most. Or one point seven five, which means an hour and forty-five minutes. If everything goes smooth, right, right, exactly. So that's how that's how they take that information. That's how the shop charges the person. It's like, okay, normally it's supposed to take an hour, it's an hour or two hour job for this thing. Right. So if it's eighty bucks per for of labor of per hour, because that's how they charge it, it's usually eighty dollars per hour of labor.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And if the job is like an hour and a half long, it's supposed to take an hour and a half long, they're gonna charge you what eighty and forty, that's$120. Plus, that's just that's just labor. Then some plies on top of that. So then what happens is when they give it to the mechanic. The mechanic they're they're told well they're told how uh what they're belling it out for. Uh it's like an hour it's an hour and a half's worth of labor. So that's what we need it at. So I need you to get this done in in an hour and a half. Right. If he gets it done within that hour and a half, he's you the shop and and the mechanic making made money because they have time to go work on something else. But if it's if they're charging a dollar 120 bucks for an hour and a half's worth of work and the mechanic's taking like all day long, you know, then you're taking up space, you're Yeah, yeah. You're holding up the line. They're they're holding themselves up on making more money because you know you're stuck on that one thing that should have been done five hours ago. Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_00:Because I hear stories where these uh some of them will cut corners and they're told to cut corners. Right. Because they're like, we got we got, you know, it's all about the money, but it's like, man, dude.
SPEAKER_01:And so that's how they get logged on, is whenever you get a if you're not if they don't put a if you have your bay and they don't give you a car to work on, then you're making whatever minimum wage is. What's minimum wage like 15 bucks or whatever? Sometimes so they're paying you minimum wage if you're not working on a car. Right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So if you work all day, if you look clocked in all day, and all you've been doing is sweeping, sweeping and doing stocking up and all that stuff, you're only getting paid$15 an hour. But if they put you, if they give it put a car in your bay, like say an oil change or something like that, then you're logging in extra hours. So those extra hours you're logging in, you're getting paid. Right. Whatever the agreement was. Most people most mechanics get paid something like$25, starting off at like$25 to like$28 an hour. And then, you know, obviously the longer you're there, the more your contract gets worked up and stuff. Yeah. Well, so that's how the mechanics get paid more, get make their money. And at least that's how it's supposed to be, but you know, certain places.
SPEAKER_00:That's why it's it's it's always hard to find an honest mechanic or one that's gonna actually give you the the word, you know what I mean, the truth. And shout out to those, man, because there's a lot of it's hard, bro.
SPEAKER_01:So that's how independent shops work.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right? That that's ideally how independent or shops like uh Midas or like Firestone, those kind of big name brand shops work, but then or Minicky, but then you have your lube shops like Grease Monkey or Jiffy Lube. Right, or five minute oil changes, I think is the name of the new one, yeah. It's like five minute. So those places they're just paying you and and it's minimum wage. They're paying all their employees minimum wage, regardless of how many cars they serve. They they do keep one mechanic, uh general mechanic on staff, and he's getting paid whatever he's probably getting paid like sp like three, four dollars, like probably eighteen bucks, nineteen bucks. He's not making those getting paid that hours, hourly flat rate. He's not getting paid the flat rate, is what they call.
SPEAKER_00:They go through a lot of cars to those places. Yeah. But I I I feel like if you have the space, might as well just do it yourself. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't I don't have the space. I mean, I guess they they've told me I'm more than welcome. Like, like I told you I want to put a gas engine on a a little two-stroke on a on a bicycle. Where am I gonna do that? I mean, I I probably could do it up here, but I don't want to make some stuff up the floor. Yeah, not to say that's gonna be like a greasy mess because it's just clean ass engine, brand new little engine that you stuff, but it's gonna make a noise, a mess. I gotta use power tools. Eventually I do have to. I mean, that'll be all happen outside, but you know, and I could do it outside, but then what am I gonna do? When I need somewhere to like be able to keep it there while I'm working on it, you know. True, true.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah. That was just my little uh sorry I went off on a tent. No, no, you're gonna just my little grind of the day, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mechanic shops and stuff like that, man.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, no, you know, I've thought about talking about, and I know he won't he won't take me up on it because he doesn't he doesn't have trust in me like that. But I mean I know I could there's a lot of stuff there that I could do that I know how to do, a lot of stuff that I can r relearn how to do.
SPEAKER_00:It's just sometimes it's uh some places don't they don't appreciate your worth. Nope. Yeah. Nope. And I feel like appreciation goes a long way in companies, you know? That's the thing. Like some people, yeah, like okay, you're not gonna give people a raise or nothing like that. But some like lately, I feel like a lot of companies, even big companies, started treating their employees more like a number than actual yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I hear I hear it from my mom's and I to good to to round out the conversation. Sorry, stop you to round the conversation is if I were to do that where we're working at, I would end up feeling like Nikola Tesla. All right, to round it all up, yeah, exactly. To put a nice little ball on it. Since we're about to call it, we might as well round up. We might as well get to the point. Get to some sort of a point. Know your appreciation. We don't know where we were getting to when we started, but now we're gonna conclude this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Know your appreciation, know your worth, man. Know your worth for sure. Know your worth.
SPEAKER_01:And and do your research. More than anything, do your research in whatever industry you're getting into. I was lucky enough to go to school for uh automotive and uh for mechanics and literally just uh gas and diesel engines.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And then I can work on my own vehicle, I just choose I don't have the space or the tools.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:But you know, I know that I would be bring some value to over there. I just I know uh I wouldn't be appreciated or being paid with the values the value.
SPEAKER_00:That's that's one thing is a lot of these places aren't playing what they should be paying.
SPEAKER_01:Properly compensated, basically. Exactly. And yeah, on top of all that, I mean the benefits we that we're we don't even get. It's like what there would be no point.
SPEAKER_00:No, definitely not. Some things are better kept to uh to yourselves.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I hate to cut it short.
SPEAKER_01:Cut it short? Yeah, you've been surprising me lately, bro. Ever since you got you might you must have recharged your batteries on on this little vaccine you had recently because Need that these last couple of episodes and definitely been way over an hour. So yeah, you know we like to keep it good over here at the Shakedown and Yeah, and so we're gonna post up the New Year's Eve and and New Year's Day special specials. Probably they'll probably be up by either tomorrow or this weekend for sure. Definitely not tonight.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know how it is here, man. I hope you guys enjoy your New Year's, enjoy your dinner. Yep, enjoy your loved ones and years again.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, and don't forget to hit that like and subscribe button. Like, like and subscribe button. I really want to please leave a comment. Yeah, any sort of comment. I know we more than likely don't have any sort of uh fan base out there as of lately. I know we have some subscribers, and even those guys whatever, even if you guys want to cuss us out or whatever, talk to you, talk to you. Talk your shit, get your clip, you know.
SPEAKER_00:They say no no no bad publicity is uh no publicity is like that. Like, you can see the same.
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